Presbyterian Men

This Small Group is open to all men. They meet at 6 P.M. on the 4th Tuesday of each month, in the conference room of the Big Muddy Apartments, located between Carbondale and Murphysboro, for fellowship and a light supper for about $5. Most meeting features a speaker. Presentations cover a wide range of fascinating topics. The group collects dollars (“happy bucks” and “sad bucks”) as people tell about good or not so good things that have happened to them recently.  Half of the money collected is donated to Parkinson Disease Support.
For more information contact:
President – Rob Jensen almador@mchsi.com

2012, July 24 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Joe Cash, Clark & Rhoda Ashby, John Holt, Tom & Karen Hippensteel, Rob Jensen, Gary Uhlir & Phyllis Beck, Jim & Sarah Milford, Bob & Elena Luebbers, Dennis Howell, Don Leigeber, Kitty Trescott, David & Carol King, Dede Ittner, Imogene Beckemeyer, and Councilwoman Jane Adams and Councilman Lee Fronabarger (Guests.)

President Rob Jensen called the meeting to order at 6:10 PM. We began with introductions, passed the hat for Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks, and Rob offered grace to begin our meal at 6:25.

President Rob introduced our guest speakers, who addressed current trends and issues in the core area of Carbondale that surrounds First Pres. Councilwoman Adams began with a powerpoint presentation that focused on preservation and restoration of existing residential properties, particularly on the Rt. 13 corridor streets and in our immediate Elm/Cherry neighborhood. She also discussed housing and neighborhood safety issues as well as code enforcement matters and neighborhood assistance teams (as used by the Arbor District neighborhood association. Councilman Fronabarger then spoke, observing that First Pres is a “jewel in our downtown” and suggesting numerous ways we could consider reaching out into the neighborhood. He also discussed the idea that a private venture, working with the city, could do neighborhood renewals on a larger scale. Our thanks to both of our guests for an engaging and provocative presentation!

The meeting was adjourned at 8 PM. Our next meeting date will be August 28.
Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2012, May 22 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, May 22, 2012 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Joe Cash, John Holt, Bill Schwegman, John Corker, Tom Hippensteel and brother Jerry, Rob Jensen, Jim DeYoung, Gary Uhlir, John Hooker, Jim Calloway, John Baker, Jim Milford, and (Guest) Paul Sarvela.

President Rob Jensen called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM. We began with introductions, passed the hat for Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks, and Rob offered grace to begin our meal at 6:20. It is probably time for one of our periodic donations to the Alzheimer’s foundation, and Tom will follow up with Barb Stewart, our de facto treasurer.

After the meal, President Rob introduced our guest speaker, Dr. Paul Sarvela, Vice President for Academic Affairs for the SIU System. He spoke about a variety of topics related to the university. He noted that overall, enrollment is a problem only with the Carbondale campus and that proactive steps are being taken to address this issue. He spoke about the make up of the student body noting that somewhat over 25% of the students are first-generation college. He also noted that over the last 30 years, the amount that the state contributes to the university’s budget has declined from about 70% to under 28% and that tuition and fees have had to increase to cover the difference. This, of course, increases each student’s loan debt. He also pointed out that the university contributes a huge amount to the local economy with over 7,000 employees spending money locally and paying taxes. Our thanks to Paul for an engaging and provocative presentation!

Rob also shared a letter from Bob Luebbers who was not able to attend, concerning the recent increase in criminal activity in the neighborhood. Bob usually attends meetings of the Arbor District Neighborhood Association and serves as our “point man” in neighborhood matters. We hope to address this topic at a subsequent meeting.

The meeting was adjourned at 7:45 PM. Our next meeting date will be July 24, and we will not meet in June.
Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2012, April 24 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, April 24, 2012 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Joe Cash, John Holt, Bill Schwegman, John Corker, Tom and Karen Hippensteel, Rob Jensen, and (Guest) Herb Russell.

President Rob Jensen called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM, and offered grace. Before dinner, all present introduced themselves. The hat was passed during the meal, with members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

After the meal, President Rob introduced our guest speaker, Herbert K. Russell, a noted local historian. Herb has just published his latest book The State of Southern Illinois (an illustrated history) through the SIU Press and he treated us to a quick walk-through of this very welcome addition to many of our libraries. Our thanks to Herb for an engaging and provocative presentation!

The meeting was adjourned at 7:30 PM. Next meeting will be May 28.
Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

May 22, 2012

2012, March 27 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, March 27, 2012 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Joe Cash, John Holt, Jim Calloway, Ken Simpson, Clark Ashby, Bob Luebbers, Rob Jensen, Don Leigeber, Richard Hertzing, John and Susan Corker, Jim DeYoung, Bill Schwegman, Bart and Kitty Trescott, and (Guest) Rev. Wade Halva.

President Rob Jensen called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM, and offered grace. Before dinner, all present introduced themselves. The hat was passed during the meal, with members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

After the meal, President Rob introduced our guest speaker, Pastor Wade Halva from Marion First Church. Wade talked about his faith journey and his path to his present calling, as a member of Generation X and with a particular emphasis on the challenges of ministry to that generation. An interactive discussion ensued, touching on subtopics such as the relative merits of institutions of higher learning in North Carolina. Our thanks to Wade for an engaging and provocative presentation!

The meeting was adjourned at 7:30 PM. Next meeting will be April 24.
Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, November 22 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting (Presbyterian Men) Tuesday, November 22, 2011 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Tom Hippensteel, John Corker, Bart Trescott, Joe Cash, Rob Jensen, John Holt, Jim Calloway, Glenn Schubert, Rich Hertzing, Al Bennett, Jim Milford, Daryl Meier, and Deanna Giacoma and Don Bennetone (guests)

Rob called the meeting to order at 6 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued after the meal. The hat was passed for the meal, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

Rob introduced our guest speaker, Deanna Giacoma, a hypnotist who has a private practice in Williamson County. She introduced Don Bennetone, her mentor, and then gave us a brief informative presentation about the many uses of hypnosis for personal healing and growth, followed by a question and answer session. Our thanks to Deanna for her interesting presentation!

The meeting was adjourned at 7:30PM. Next meeting will be January 24 (no meeting in December.)

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, October 25 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting (Presbyterian Men) Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Tom Hippensteel, John Corker, Bart Trescott, Jim DeYoung, Joe Cash, Rob Jensen, Bob Luebbers, John Holt, Jim Calloway, Clark Ashby, John Hooker, Gary Uhlir and Phillis Beck, and Bob O’Daniel (guest)

Rob called the meeting to order at 6:10 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued after the meal. The hat was passed for the meal, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

Tom Hippensteel introduced our guest speaker, Bob O’Daniel, who described his WW II experiences and noted that he had served in both the European and Pacific theaters in that war. Our thanks to Bob for his interesting presentation!

The meeting was adjourned at 7:50PM. Next meeting will be November 22.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, September 27 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting (Presbyterian Men) Tuesday, September 27, 2011 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Jim Milford, Tom Hippensteel, Ken Simpson, Bill Schwegman, John Corker, Rich Hertzing, Bart Trescott (with guest Lukas Skowron,) Jim DeYoung, Joe Cash, Rob Jensen, Bob Luebbers, John Holt, and Harry and Marta Davis (guests)

Rob called the meeting to order at 6:05 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued after the meal. The hat was passed for the meal, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

Harry Davis, ably assisted by Marta, led us on a rich and informative trek through the world of maps, with a wealth of hands-on visual aids. Our thanks to Harry and Marta for an excellent presentation!

The meeting was adjourned around 8:15PM. Next meeting will be October 25.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, August 22 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting (Presbyterian Men) Tuesday, August 22, 2011 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Jim DeYoung, Joe Cash, Rob Jensen, Bob Luebbers, John Baker, Jim Calloway, John Holt, and Pete and Anita Peterson (guests)

Rob called the meeting to order at 6:05 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued after the meal. Minutes of previous meetings were approved and finances were discussed. The hat was passed for the meal, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

Rob introduced his colleague, Prof. Pete Peterson, who among his other activities pens a monthly baseball column in the Southern Illinoisan. Pete has made a passionate life-long study of major league baseball, and he led us in an engaging and informative seminar on the transition of MLB from “small ball” to a big money sport. Possible outcomes of this year’s season were also discussed. Our thanks to Pete for an excellent presentation!

The meeting was adjourned around 8:15PM. Next meeting will be September 27.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, June 28 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting (Presbyterian Men) Tuesday, June 28, 2011 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Tom Hippensteel, Joe Cash, Rob Jensen, John Hooker, Harry Davis, Bob Luebbers, John Holt, and John Baker (guest)

Rob called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued during and after the meal. No reports were given by the treasurer or secretary. The hat was passed for the meal, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks. No Sad Bucks were offered.

Rob introduced our own Prof. John Baker who offered a provocative and interesting look at “Misery and Public Budgeting.” Following this excellent presentation, on motion from the floor the hat was passed again and many Sad Bucks were contributed.

The meeting was adjourned around 8:10PM. Next meeting will be July 26 We will meet at 5 PM for a tour of the new Transportation Center facility, and then move to Big Muddy Retirement Center for our meal and more programming.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, May 24 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at Big Muddy Retirement Center

Present: Jim Milford, Tom Hippensteel, Gary Uhlir, Joe Cash, Rob Jenson, Walter Sickel, Bart Trescott, Al Bennett, Bill Schwegman, John Hooker, John Holt, and Dave Gilbert (guest)

Rob called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued during and after the meal. No reports were given by the treasurer or secretary. The hat was passed for the meal, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks.

Rob introduced his colleague, Prof. Dave Gilbert who offered a provocative and interesting look at “Fleeting Truths in Science, Society and Religion in the Information Age: What Hurts Is Not What You Know, but What You Know That Is Not True.”

Our thanks to Dave for an excellent presentation!

The meeting was adjourned around 8:10PM. Next meeting will be June 24.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, April 26 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, April 26, 2011 at Big Muddy

Present: Jim Milford, John Corker, John Dotson, Tom Hippensteel, Gary Uhlir, Jim Calloway, Neil Foland, Rich Hertzing, John Holt, Joe Cash, and Glenn Schubert (guest)

Joe called the meeting to order at 6:05 PM, and offered grace before dinner. The meeting continued during and after the meal.

Treasurer Neil gave a financial report (we currently have $220 in the bank) which was approved by voice vote. By common consent, the March minutes will be deferred until the May meeting.

The hat was passed for dues, followed by members noting events in their lives and contributing Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks. There was some discussion about our arrangements with the host facility, and there was a strong consensus that we need to be sure they are adequately compensated, and we can probably afford to do so. John was commissioned to take this matter up with President Rob for research and possible resolution at our next meeting. Meanwhile, Neil was authorized to pay the entire evening’s receipts to the facility ($71.)

Glenn Schubert, a past President of the Midwestern Association of Forensic Scientists, then gave us a most informative and interesting virtual tour through his workplace, the state police forensic science lab of Carbondale. We learned that the Illinois State Police Forensic Science Command is the third largest such enterprise in the world (after the FBI and Scotland Yard) with a total of seven laboratory facilities around the state, employing some 500 scientists and support personnel. Glenn’s topic was CSI: Entertainment vs. Reality. Our thanks to Glenn for an excellent presentation!

The meeting was adjourned around 8:10PM. Next meeting will be May 24.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, February 22 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011 at Big Muddy

President Rob called the meeting to order at 6:05 PM, with grace being offered prior to sharing dinner. The meeting continued after the meal.

It was noted that the minutes of the January 25 meeting had been emailed, and it was agreed to accept them. In the absence of the Treasurer, it was agreed to defer the financial report until the March meeting.

Members recounted some good events in their lives and Happy Bucks were collected. There were no Sad Bucks.

Our guest speaker, Kay Rippelmeyer, delivered a most interesting talk illustrated with excellent historical slides. She focused on the local history of the Civilian Conservation Corps and the involvement of the Corps in creating Giant City Park, the Lodge, and the Shawnee National Forest. Members purchased several copies of her book, which she autographed.

The meeting was adjourned around 7:50 PM. Next meeting will be March 22.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2011, January Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011 at Big Muddy

Present: T Hippensteel, N Foland, B Luebbers, J Cash, J Holt, C Ashby, G Uhlir, R. Jensen, D. King, with spouses M. Jensen, K. Hippensteel, C. King, D. Cash, E. Luebbers and R. Ashby, and guests Dr. Brian Bird and his staff person Sara.

Tom H called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM, thanking Joe C for his service as President during the past year, and announced the passing of the gavel to President Rob J. Rob then officiated over the passing of the hat for the usual assessments and Happy/Sad Bucks. Rob expressed satisfaction with the meeting place and, hearing no objections, announced that it would become our normal meeting place.

Neil then proposed that we standardize the way we handle our treasury “surplus,” by donating 50% of it twice each year to the local Parkinson’s organization…in June and November. He noted that the money is held by FPC in its general fund, and not in a dedicated account. The measure passed unanimously by voice vote. Upon Rob’s call, the minutes of the previous two meetings were approved by common consent.

After an invocation and blessing of food by Tom, the meeting continued with supper.

Tom then introduced the team from Allied Physicians & Rehab, Dr. Brian and Sara, who presented an interesting and engaging workshop on stress and Trigger Point Therapy, with all present being given an opportunity to participate “hands-on.”
The meeting was adjourned around 8:00 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary

2010, November 23 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, November 23, 2010 at Golden Corral

President J Cash called the meeting to order with prayer at 6:00 PM, and dinner commenced immediately.

Present: T Hippensteel, B Martens, N Foland, B Luebbers, D&B Leigeber, J Cash, B Schwegman, D Meier, B Trescott, J Holt, H Davis, C Ashby, G Uhlir, P&R Hertzing, and guests Benjamin Dunn and his son Tom Dunn.

At 6:40, N Foland passed the hat for contributions, and a second time for Happy Bucks and Sad Bucks. At 6:50 T Hippensteel introduced guest speaker Benjamin Dunn of Murphysboro First Church, who showed slides and discussed his WW2 experiences as a soldier and prisoner of war from December 1941 through the end of the war in 1945. His presentation was informative, inspirational and quite remarkable. Benjamin was a POW in Java, Singapore and Burma, helping to build a railroad line as well as the famous “Bridge over the River Kwai.” He is originally from Gorham and has lived most of his life in Jackson County.

In order to maximize our opportunity to hear from Mr. Dunn, matters of regular business were postponed until our next meeting. Per our bylaws, there is no meeting in December and our next meeting will be January 25 at a venue to be announced later.

The meeting concluded shortly after 8 PM.

Respectfully submitted,
John Holt, co-Secretary elect

2010, October 25 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Monday, October 25, 2010 at Pagliai’s Pizza in Carbondale

Present: Sixteen members were present.

Guest Speaker: Walter Sickel, a member of First Presbyterian. He presented his personal experience of converting his 19 year old propane furnace to a geothermal system consisting of 5 bore holes running 150 feet deep. He estimates that his $21,000 initial investment will recoup his costs within 5 years. A detailed geothermal data sheet was handed out and discussed.

Additionally, Walter discussed the Jackson-Union County Habitat for humanity. The selection process is thorough and the recipient is expected to partner with Habitat by working 300 sweat equity hours and commit to making regular payments until the mortgage is paid off; usually in twenty years. Lee Brackett is the local chapter president.

Old Business: No old business.

New Business:
Happy and sad bucks were reported from members.
Moved and passed that minutes be posted to the church web site via Dan Owen, Web Master.
John Holt and Ken Simpson volunteered to be co-secretaries for the next year.
Joe Cash will continue as President, due to no other volunteers.

Meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m. Joe Cash offered a prayer.

Next meeting: Monday, November 22, 2010 at 6:00 p.m. at the Golden Corral, located on Hwy 13 and Reed Station road, east of Carbondale.

Guest Speaker: Benjamin Dunn, POW of the Bridge on the River Kwai.

Respectfully submitted: Bob Luebbers, Secretary

2010, September 28 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, September 28, 2010 at Hunan Restaurant in Carbondale

Guest Speaker: Geoffrey Partlow DMD, and owner of  The Carbondale General Dentistry, was the guest speaker.   His remarks covered:

Common phobias toward dental care
Dental implants and their cost
Toothbrush types/ regular & electric
Flossing devices
Dry mouth conditions
Fluoride treatments – necessity

Old Business: No old business.

New Business:
Happy and sad bucks were reported from members.
Discussion held on meeting place for October meeting. Tentative location is Golden Corral at 6:00 p.m. Tres Hombres is another suggested location.
Members discussed suggestions for future programs.

The meeting was adjourned at 7:50 PM. Joe Cash offered a prayer.

Next meeting: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 at 6:00 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,Jim Milford, Secretary Pro Tem

2010, August 24 Meeting Minutes

Minutes of Meeting – Presbyterian Men, Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Present: Fourteen members were present.

Bob Leigeber lead us in prayer at 6:05PM

Secretary’s Report: Bob Luebbers handed out the minutes of the July meeting. Minutes were approved.

New Business: A few happy and sad bucks were reported from members. It was reported that ½ of the Sad/Happy Bucks goes toward the Southern Illinois Parkinson Foundation.

We don’t have a Vice President and will need to hold elections by no later than January 2011.

It was suggested that we hold future meetings at other locations.

Guest Speaker: John Sanders, Secretary of State Securities Dept, spoke on the topic of “Can you spot the scam?” Key points were:

1. Check out the credentials of an investment securities agent before you invest.
His department has 4 divisions
a. Auditors
b. Investigators – have the power to arrest.
c. Forensic accounting
d. Investment education
2. Department receives its funding through the fines paid by those found guilty of securities fraud.
Slick con artists will avoid promoting securities that are “too good to be true”.
Affinity fraud – often seen in church settings in which an elder is conned into networking with other church members.
Good motto: “Investigate before you Invest.”

The meeting was adjourned around 8:00 PM.
Adjourned at 7:45PM
Next meeting: Tuesday, September 28 at 6:00PM at Hunan Village, 710 E Main, Carbondale, back room.
Guest Speaker: To be announced

Respectfully submitted: Bob Luebbers, Secretary

Updated 10/26/2015.